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Monday, June 18, 2018

Recovered raw data of old study undermines 40y of dietary dogma


SciAm article: Records Found in Dusty Basement Undermine Decades of Dietary Advice
Raw data from a 40-year-old study raises new questions about fats
By Sharon Begley, STAT on April 19, 2017


Ramsden, of the National Institutes of Health, unearthed raw data from a 40-year-old study, which challenges the dogma that eating vegetable fats instead of animal fats is good for the heart. The study, the largest gold-standard experiment testing that idea, found the opposite, Ramsden and his colleagues reported on Tuesday in BMJ (formerly the British Medical Journal).

Although the study is more than just another entry in the long-running nutrition wars—it is more rigorous than the vast majority of research on the topic—Ramsden makes no claims that it settles the question. Instead, he said, his discovery and analysis of long-lost data underline how the failure to publish the results of clinical trials can undermine truth.
The coleader of the project was Dr. Ancel Keys, author of the Seven Countries Study, Time cover subject, and the most prominent advocate of replacing saturated fat with vegetable fat. “The idea that there might be something adverse about lowering cholesterol [via vegetable oils] was really antithetical to the dogma of the day,” Bob Frantz said.

His father, he said, “was always committed to discovering the truth. He would be pleased this is finally coming out.”

From The Telegraph "Modern dunce's cap"

I beg to differ. I doubt if Dr. Ivan Frantz would be proud of publishing the truth, because he could have but he didn't! I think he was afraid of the truth! Like many academics, intellectuals and most people I knew worked with.   Not only Dr. I. Frantz kept the study's most important data unpublished but also actively obfuscated it by publishing a misleading partial summaries and whitewashed watered-down inconclusive "conclusions".

Half-truth = full lie!

Because of Dr. Ivan Frantz' and other fake scientists' failure to publish the truth, What followed was 40-more years of suffering by millions of people from preventable diseases, due to bad dietary advise and corporate self-served food marketing that was based on the academically-supported half-truth, lies and distortions!

United Stated needs no external enemy - it is being destroyed by their own luminaries and the establishment through half-truth, lies and deception.

Bob Frantz, Dr. Franz's son, who rediscovered the hidden records and got them published, can't really feel proud of his father, but he definitely deserves to be proud of himself and be praised for bringing the truth! He is also lucky to have survived his father's bad diet at home, as a child.

Appendix: Supplementary material [posted as supplied by author
Part 1: MCE supporting materials and historical context
Tribute to Dr. Ivan Frantz in leading the Minnesota Coronary Experiment team
Reared on Margarine and to the Tune of Spinning Ultracentrifuges:
A Son’s Recollections of Ivan D. Frantz, Jr. During the Early Days of Lipid Research
Robert P. Frantz, M.D.


john said...

..."no claims that it settles the question..."

To me, I read this as:

"Most of the 'big data' shows saturated fat is better. We also have lots of smaller-scaled controlled studies in many animals that show it to be the best dietary choice. There are intrinsic properties of the fats that make it superior. We have a clear, coherent picture of fat and physiology. HOWEVER, we just feel in our hearts that vegetable oil is right, and that's how we want it."

And that's why data is lost, studies are designed poorly, et cetera. Most scientists aren't "committed to discovering the truth" (as Bob Frantz said of his father). They're committed to persuading you. Look at publications from early-mid 20th century. There is often a genuine curiosity and inquiry. Modern papers usually have a different tone. The authors write their conclusions and then work backwards.

Stan Bleszynski said...

Hi John,
Absolutely! When I finished my physics study and begun working in 1980, the first thing that struck me was absolutely zero curiosity among my colleagues. I believe it has something to do with the peculiarity of baby-boomers generation or something else. Television "educated" population? I find many scientists extremely materialistic and ego-centered, more so then most people working in private businesses, they are also notoriously underpaid and insecure.

I believe that "noblesse oblige" - people who are gifted in research and science and have problem-solving skills have a special privilege and duty to speak the truth or at least not lie. A lying scientist is a weapon of mass destruction contributing to mass casualty, on a global scale.

There is also a spiritual compulsion to strive towards truthfulness "come hell or high water", but that is a more esoteric subject.

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